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Hksan is one of those few remaining places where freedom of ideas is still permitted. Hence for someone like me, it's a safe space to talk. Fact is my own view of recent events belong to neither camp.
There are many ways to cause disruptions, the question is costs, and methods used to achieve said ends. 
Suppose there is a flight of capital and mass emigration, then one possible outcome is potentially new opportunities for social mobility, as well as investment opportunities. However, in the relatively short term, the consequences include a depressed market, and by extension, possibly economic recession. These are costs that one must be aware of.

Assume that there will be a mass wave of capital flight and emigration. Property prices will likely drop as a result of panic sales. This implies that interest rates will decrease to stimulate borrowing demand. This also creates opportunities for those wanting to buy property. Rental rates drop as they converge to mortgage rates. Social mobility increases as resources become redistributed. At the same time, there will likely be a period of economic recession as society is restructuring. Nobody can know whether the downturn can benefit them. Yet nothing changes without changing the status quo. 

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Here we go again.

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So...let me get this straight: this seemingly 'neutral' article, is trying to debunk claims that Liberal Studies had anything to do with the increasingly extreme and biased sentiments of many, by one-off interviews, and undetailed and deceptive statistics?? (¦ýBBC¤¤¤å°OªÌ½Õ¬dµo²{¡A¦b¹ê»Ú±Ð¾Ç¹Lµ{¤¤¡A¥Xª©ªÀ±Ð¬ì®Ñ¹ï¾Ç¥Íªº¼vÅT«Ü¤p; ½Õ¬d³X°Ý¤F25¶¡¤¤¾Ç¦@2896¦W¤¤¤­¾Ç¥Í¡Aµo²{³qÃѬì¨S¦³¥O­»´ä«C¦~¿E¶i¤Æ¡A«o¦ü¥G¤ñ¸û¦¨¥\¦a´£°ª¤F¤¤¾Ç¥Íªº¤½¥Á·NÃÑ¡C³ßÅw³qÃѬ쪺¾Ç¥Í¸û¶É¦Vı±o¾Ç²ß¤¤°ê¾ú¥v­«­n¡A¤]¸û»{¦P´L­«¬F©²©x­û¡C)
I hadn't read the articled referenced in the article (¡m§Úªá¤F725´ä¹ô¡A¶R¤F­»´ä³qÃѱЧ÷¡n) prior to this BBC article, and I thought there was nothing wrong with the goals of the Liberal Studies, ("¥[²`¹ï¦Û¨­¡BªÀ·|¡B°ê®a¡B¤H¤å¥@¬É©Mª«½èÀô¹Òªº²z¸Ñ¡A¹ï¤£¦P±¡¹Ò¤¤¸g±`¥X²{ªº·í¥NijÃD§@¦h¨¤«×«ä¦Òµ¥")...but yeah, aftering reading the OP and seeing cited examples, I understood why the textbooks drew so much criticisms - the materials were dogmatic and biased as heck. 
So this whole thing is a counter argument that Liberal Studies did not brainwash students, and instead taught them to think more critically? Nice try...BBC. *face palm*

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QUOTE (Pearltea @ Nov 1 2019, 03:56 )
Here we go again.

BBC - ­»´ä³qÃѽҡG³Q¤¤°ê©x´C§åµûªº¥²­×¬ì¡u±ÐÃa¡v¦~»´¤H¡H

So...let me get this straight: this seemingly 'neutral' article, is trying to debunk claims that Liberal Studies had anything to do with the increasingly extreme and biased sentiments of many, by one-off interviews, and undetailed and deceptive statistics?? (¦ýBBC¤¤¤å°OªÌ½Õ¬dµo²{¡A¦b¹ê»Ú±Ð¾Ç¹Lµ{¤¤¡A¥Xª©ªÀ±Ð¬ì®Ñ¹ï¾Ç¥Íªº¼vÅT«Ü¤p; ½Õ¬d³X°Ý¤F25¶¡¤¤¾Ç¦@2896¦W¤¤¤­¾Ç¥Í¡Aµo²{³qÃѬì¨S¦³¥O­»´ä«C¦~¿E¶i¤Æ¡A«o¦ü¥G¤ñ¸û¦¨¥\¦a´£°ª¤F¤¤¾Ç¥Íªº¤½¥Á·NÃÑ¡C³ßÅw³qÃѬ쪺¾Ç¥Í¸û¶É¦Vı±o¾Ç²ß¤¤°ê¾ú¥v­«­n¡A¤]¸û»{¦P´L­«¬F©²©x­û¡C)
I hadn't read the articled referenced in the article (¡m§Úªá¤F725´ä¹ô¡A¶R¤F­»´ä³qÃѱЧ÷¡n) prior to this BBC article, and I thought there was nothing wrong with the goals of the Liberal Studies, ("¥[²`¹ï¦Û¨­¡BªÀ·|¡B°ê®a¡B¤H¤å¥@¬É©Mª«½èÀô¹Òªº²z¸Ñ¡A¹ï¤£¦P±¡¹Ò¤¤¸g±`¥X²{ªº·í¥NijÃD§@¦h¨¤«×«ä¦Òµ¥")...but yeah, aftering reading the OP and seeing cited examples, I understood why the textbooks drew so much criticisms - the materials were dogmatic and biased as heck. 
So this whole thing is a counter argument that Liberal Studies did not brainwash students, and instead taught them to think more critically? Nice try...BBC. *face palm*

I skimmed the BBC article by read the reference. From the scans alone, can't see anything encouraging critical thinking. (Although there are quite a few false dichotomies, some over simplified worldviews of living overseas, and a lot of deliberate bias against China. Mainland is not perfect, but neither is HK.) The issue here is the very passive finger pointing gesture, as opposed to asking questions on what are some possible alternatives. There are many deep-lying issues in HK, but mainland tourist flooding in is probably the least problematic. One should look at the oligarchy of tycoons, the incompetence of the government, and the shallow politics being played by Legco.     
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QUOTE (willyho @ Nov 13 2019, 09:27 )
I skimmed the BBC article by read the reference. From the scans alone, can't see anything encouraging critical thinking. (Although there are quite a few false dichotomies, some over simplified worldviews of living overseas, and a lot of deliberate bias against China. Mainland is not perfect, but neither is HK.) The issue here is the very passive finger pointing gesture, as opposed to asking questions on what are some possible alternatives. There are many deep-lying issues in HK, but mainland tourist flooding in is probably the least problematic. One should look at the oligarchy of tycoons, the incompetence of the government, and the shallow politics being played by Legco.     

¡§can't see anything encouraging critical thinking¡¨ ¡V that¡¦s the biggest issue here.  It¡¦s almost as if the authors were using textbooks as means of carrying their own propaganda, by meticulously selecting ¡¥knowledge¡¦ they want students to acquire.  

You¡¦re right about the ¡¥passive finger pointing gesture¡¦, it¡¦s very subtle when everything was not ¡§inaccurate¡¨ per se, but at an aggregate level, students could be misguided and form opinions based on those overly broad generalizations, and that¡¦s a very dangerous and reckless thing to do.
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To elaborate a little further, the influx of a large number of tourists from mainland did cause a lot of disruptions to local communities. This may be through the large purchases of items such as milk powder, to the sudden domination of jewelry stores. However, the changes were most likely made by HK residents. The landlord who decided to not to renew the lease of the last grocery is probably a HK resident. That property owner who felt it was okay to increase rent several times due to increased flow of foot traffic? Also likely a ­»´ä¤H . And finally, the apartment owner who waited for prices to peak out before selling? The point now is blatantly obvious.

Critical thinking, is not just about not taking authority claims for granted. It involves a deliberate asking of often uncomfortable questions by not jumping on the bandwagon. It means taking positions that may put one in a socially awkward place. It means not committing to simplistic us versus them mentalities, even when society at large seems to be doing so.

What was in the scans weren't inaccurate per se, but very inflammatory. The intention was very clear. To create a sense of "unity" by creating an imaginary nemesis. 

Rather than posing questions exploring the deeper issues of HK, such as the social inequalities, the syllabus creators decided to slip in their own biases, masquerading as "critical thinking". It doesn't promote values such as tolerance of differences, for example, which is a very "western" value. If critical thinking is a focus at all, then surely verifying the validity of information on social media is part of it. 

(if anything, the scans function much better as counterexamples of critical thinking.) 

Skepticism goes both ways. Questioning of one's own views is integral to critical thinking. A fundamental part of a "well-rounded" person is the ability to accept self-doubt. The liberal studies syllabus seems to have completely miss its own stated target. 



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