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Sorry to interrupt.....
Since the old san board to now......
The arguing on Chrisitian always a hot topic.....(The 1st 1 was me and lee.....)
The discusions usually have no answer but ended in peace.
But...well
It seems u 2 criticial on the bible rather than making decision.
By the rules, members should respect the others here(including reiligion right?)in most case.
Although I don't really agree what yan said .....but what "bible 係科幻小說"...... it have the same meaning as:all christian believe nothing but only a character in novel....I hope you know what can say/what should not say.
So ......can you just stop putting ur enmity on here/a member here?
Decision on religion is similar to the discuision between defferent schoos(academic 1).....some idea cross,some opposite,avoide the focus on opposed path,aim in the basic theory,structure may not the best method.....but we can get a balance and found a result.....not a endless agrue


Arguing on the internet is like running in the Special
Olympics.
Even if you win, you're still retarded.(I don't knopw where it from.....don't count it on me)

I think most members here know I don't believe in the god(and I damn the god myself sometimes)but I won't give any comment on christians unless they do something annoy me /disgusting.

To蒙古騎兵隊隊長:
I really want to know what have you learn here....
From member to admin,from admin to member........... dry.gif
Remind you:
Don't make any mistake in future,nor you situtation ......... dry.gif

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QUOTE (kyr @ Apr 13 2005, 09:24 PM)
I won't give any comment on christians unless they do something annoy me /disgusting.


u r damn right

I won't give any comment on christians unless they do something annoy me /disgusting.

in fact they didn't annoy me,
they just made me feel that they are disgusting.


許久許久以前,在這條thread裡面
我已經對"宗教"表達了我的看法
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宗教可以導人向善,又或是讓人藉以心靈寄托.其存在是有正面的作用

但當信教者動輒將所有事物的開始終結等的因果關係,強行說成是宗教經典上所述說的"神"的命令,安排等的時候.宗教的存在就會對人有負面影響.

皆因無論成敗得失皆歸諸為神的安排,人類只消安坐而待即可,勤勞工作,積極進取的態度等於被完全否定.反正一個安排,無論你努力過幾多,最後也只是徒然



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^----your speech should base on why you hate the then dry.gif

As u say.....I can kill anyone I hate.....with no ethical responsibility? dry.gif

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my speech is focus on the weakness of the speech of the others

as u said,i won't get any benefit even i win the "debate" (if those "answers" can be classified as a formal reply in debate)


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QUOTE (kyr @ Apr 13 2005, 09:34 PM)
As u say.....I can kill anyone I hate.....with no ethical responsibility? dry.gif

before u bear the ethical responsibility

i should remind u that,u will be punish by law,as a part of legal responsibility

btw,我邊一句說話會令你得到咁既結論呢?


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You are only fullfill yourself since the reiligion make u unhappy


The god will judge me since I damn him nearly every day.(if god exists)
The admins should do something since someone damn me here sleep.gif


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上帝是有大能的主
等於一隻螞蟻可不可以理解人類一樣
以上只是比喻


多好的比喻啊!人類可以消滅螞蟻(紅火蟻?),闔門撤瓦灌穴,無所不用其極。因為對於人類來說,螞蟻實在很討厭。不過人類還是善良的,起碼我們從來沒有威逼或利誘可憐的螞蟻崇拜我們、信仰我們、順從我們。

上帝的兒女們啊!既然你們堅信上帝之所以叫上帝是因為他不能被人理解,那麼以後當你說「這是上帝的恩典」、「這是上帝的恩典」、「這是上帝的考驗」、「這是上帝的旨意」、「這是上帝的安排」、「上帝愛世人」、「上帝是全善全知全能的」、「上帝無所不在」等的話前,我懇請你們三思。因為你們的話必將是——極之不幸地——錯誤的。所以下次想說這些話的時候,問問自己:作好了心理準備沒有?
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You can sure the god exists or not illegical because you hate the god
And....I have responsibilty if I kill anyone???


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QUOTE (諸葛羲 @ Apr 13 2005, 09:46 PM)
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上帝是有大能的主
等於一隻螞蟻可不可以理解人類一樣
以上只是比喻


多好的比喻啊!人類可以消滅螞蟻(紅火蟻?),闔門撤瓦灌穴,無所不用其極。因為對於人類來說,螞蟻實在很討厭。不過人類還是善良的,起碼我們從來沒有威逼或利誘可憐的螞蟻崇拜我們、信仰我們、順從我們。

上帝的兒女們啊!既然你們堅信上帝之所以叫上帝是因為他不能被人理解,那麼以後當你說「這是上帝的恩典」、「這是上帝的恩典」、「這是上帝的考驗」、「這是上帝的旨意」、「這是上帝的安排」、「上帝愛世人」、「上帝是全善全知全能的」、「上帝無所不在」等的話前,我懇請你們三思。因為你們的話必將是——極之不幸地——錯誤的。所以下次想說這些話的時候,問問自己:作好了心理準備沒有?

Yep...
And...I think reiligion is a communication between human and god,if there really a god,church is lead u to the god too,point you a way
Obey what god said is more important than the church said.....

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上帝是依照自己的樣子去做人的

那為何唯獨是上帝是全能至善

而人卻平凡脆弱,還背著不知從何而來的"原罪"呢?

If anyone is god ,noone is god...........


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QUOTE (kyr @ Apr 13 2005, 09:44 PM)
You are only fullfill yourself since the reiligion make u unhappy


The god will judge me since I damn him nearly every day.(if god exists)
The admins should do something since someone damn me here sleep.gif

well

may be u should read those sentence that i quote b4

religion didn't make me unhappy,people do



i don't damn god,since i think i got a happy life.
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QUOTE (kyr @ Apr 13 2005, 09:49 PM)
You can sure the god exists or not illegical because you hate the god
And....I have responsibilty if I kill anyone???

你知道你自己在說甚麼嗎....?

你知道甚麼叫負責任嗎?


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QUOTE (司馬仲達 @ Apr 13 2005, 10:06 PM)
QUOTE (kyr @ Apr 13 2005, 09:49 PM)
You can sure the god exists or not illogical because you hate the god
And....I have responsibilty if I kill anyone???

你知道你自己在說甚麼嗎....?

你知道甚麼叫負責任嗎?

I mean in ethical dry.gif


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QUOTE (司馬仲達 @ Apr 13 2005, 09:59 PM)
QUOTE (kyr @ Apr 13 2005, 09:44 PM)
You are only fullfill yourself since the reiligion make u unhappy


The god will judge me since I damn him nearly every day.(if god exists)
The admins should do something since someone damn me here sleep.gif

well

may be u should read those sentence that i quote b4

religion didn't make me unhappy,people do



i don't damn god,since i think i got a happy life.
i've got those that i really need.

I only know u set the rule as :
Melody thick me,novel fools me....nothing but my words -Cruel is the truth.
All the things I don't believe should be eliminated sleep.gif


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QUOTE (kyr @ Apr 13 2005, 10:12 PM)
QUOTE (司馬仲達 @ Apr 13 2005, 10:06 PM)
QUOTE (kyr @ Apr 13 2005, 09:49 PM)
You can sure the god exists or not illogical because you hate the god
And....I have responsibilty if I kill anyone???

你知道你自己在說甚麼嗎....?

你知道甚麼叫負責任嗎?

I mean in ethical dry.gif

好簡單

你有道德
就要負道德上既責任

你無道德
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Melody thick me,novel fools me....nothing but my words -Cruel is the truth.
All the things I don't believe should be eliminated

可以用中文解釋一下嗎?不想會錯意

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就我看了一大串討論串的心得
Yan為何不正面回應仲達的問題?
每每也避重就輕,轉移話題,每次都是以「秀才遇到兵,有理說不清」的態度想糊弄過去
這行為不太好喔
一直不正面回答別人的問題,反而說別人刁難你....
==================感想分隔線==========================
總覺得仲達和Yan的戰文真不精彩
完全沒有你來我往的攻防戰,精彩的戰文可以比美一場好的辯論大賽說
但是Yan一味迴避問題讓這場筆戰完全熱不起來啊Orz

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QUOTE (司馬仲達 @ Apr 13 2005, 10:20 PM)
QUOTE (kyr @ Apr 13 2005, 10:12 PM)
QUOTE (司馬仲達 @ Apr 13 2005, 10:06 PM)
QUOTE (kyr @ Apr 13 2005, 09:49 PM)
You can sure the god exists or not illogical because you hate the god
And....I have responsibilty if I kill anyone???

你知道你自己在說甚麼嗎....?

你知道甚麼叫負責任嗎?

I mean in ethical dry.gif

好簡單

你有道德
就要負道德上既責任

你無道德
咪唔洗負囉

you can judge anything realistic illogical,wht can't I define ethic myself dry.gif

[QUOTE]就我看了一大串討論串的心得
Yan為何不正面回應仲達的問題?
每每也避重就輕,轉移話題,每次都是以「秀才遇到兵,有理說不清」的態度想糊弄過去
這行為不太好喔
一直不正面回答別人的問題,反而說別人刁難你.... [CODE]
same feeling........but u may get similar answer from godfather/cleric
if reiligion can be explain,it's not a belief,it's a fact wacko.gif
what we can do is only make it make sense as possible.......


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Melody thick me,novel fools me....nothing but my words -Cruel is the truth.
All the things I don't believe should be eliminated

可以用中文解釋一下嗎?不想會錯意

You don't understand the world u living in. sleep.gif


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QUOTE (kyr @ Apr 13 2005, 10:44 PM)
QUOTE (司馬仲達 @ Apr 13 2005, 10:20 PM)



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Melody thick me,novel fools me....nothing but my words -Cruel is the truth.
All the things I don't believe should be eliminated

可以用中文解釋一下嗎?不想會錯意

You don't understand the world u living in. sleep.gif

這是解釋?

還是解釋以外的回答?


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QUOTE (kyr @ Apr 13 2005, 10:40 PM)
same feeling........but u may get similar answer from godfather/cleric
if reiligion can be explain,it's not a belief,it's a fact wacko.gif
what we can do is only make it make sense as possible.......

英文苦手,請問可以用中文嗎= =
雖然不是看不懂,但是看到英文就頭疼
我會不會太排斥英文了啊(汗)


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Melody thick me,novel fools me....nothing but my words -Cruel is the truth.
All the things I don't believe should be eliminated

可以用中文解釋一下嗎?不想會錯意

You don't understand the world u living in. sleep.gif

這是解釋?

還是解釋以外的回答?

As you like.
The fact is u misunderstand the world and put a "=" between it and cruel


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