南洋商業銀行名譽董事長莊世平去世

莊世平因心律衰竭逝世 (21:34)
2007年6月2日
前全國政協常委、南洋商業銀行名譽董事長莊世平於今日2時29分因心律衰竭去世，享年97歲。

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中華全國歸國華僑聯合會副主席、中華海外聯誼會副會長、中國銀行名譽副董事長、南洋商業銀行名譽董事長，第二、三、四、五、六屆全國人大代表，第七、八、九屆全國政協常委，香港大紫荊勳章獲得者莊世平，因心律衰竭，於6月2日2時29分在香港去世，享年97歲。

中央人民政府駐港聯絡辦主任高祀仁、副主任王鳳超２日前往莊世平家中看望親屬，並向他們轉達了國家副主席曾慶紅，國務委員唐家璇，全國政協副主席廖暉、劉延東的慰問。

高祀仁對莊世平的不幸辭世表示深切哀悼，並為失去一位德高望重的老朋友深感惋惜。

高祀仁高度評價莊世平為國家、為香港不懈奮鬥的一生，並表示要以莊世平為榜樣，努力把國家和香港建設得更加美好。

中銀(香港)有限公司及中聯辦有關部門的負責人也於２日到莊世平家中向其親屬致哀。




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香港中共地下黨莊世平傳奇
DWNEWS.COM-- 2007年6月9日5:17:35(京港臺時間) --多維新聞網

亞洲周刊紀碩鳴／日前去世的香港銀行家莊世平是港英殖民時期中共在香港的“地下黨”領導人﹐他一生理想是為國家民族奮斗﹐雖創辦銀行百億產業﹐股份卻全部捐出﹐不為家屬謀官謀利﹐兒子只是香港一個運輸司機。

莊世平去世了。這位香港著名的銀行家﹐享年九十七歲。他鮮為人知的傳奇是在港英殖民時期﹐他是中共“地下黨”的領導人﹔在回歸前後﹐仍發揮巨大的影響力﹐但他卻拒絕當前中共官場權錢交易的誘惑﹐絕不為己謀私﹐也不為家屬謀一官半職。他的一個兒子當運輸司機﹐在香港開巴士。他一生所關注的﹐只是讓中國人在國際上站起來﹐以及如何使中共在時代的變幻中加速改革。

六月二日二時二十九分﹐前全國政協常委､南洋商業銀行名譽董事長､被稱為香港金融大亨的莊世平因心律衰竭在香港去世。雖然這位十六歲就追隨共產黨﹐在中國共產黨打天下與治天下時都立下汗馬功勞的共產黨人﹐去世後並沒有被冠以“優秀的中國共產黨員”的帽子﹐也沒有“忠誠的共產主義戰士”的名號﹐但他的一些當年下屬及同志都不會忘記﹐他一生清廉﹐高風亮節﹐曾將上百億計在他名下的由他創辦的銀行股權捐給當局。他走了﹐沒有給家屬留下房子､車子､銀子﹐卻留下了以一生誠實寬容､正直正義鑄就的“鏡子”﹐照亮了一個共產黨員的理想。

莊世平去世後﹐中央人民政府駐港聯絡辦主任高祀仁､副主任王鳳超當日就前往莊世平家中看望親屬﹐並向他們轉達了國家副主席曾慶紅､國務委員唐家璇､全國政協副主席廖暉､劉延東的慰問。香港特首曾蔭權也看望了莊世平的家屬並表示﹐莊世平早年從事金融工作﹐對香港銀行界建樹良多﹔並且非常熱心公益﹐不但致力促進香港的繁榮安定﹐在國家的經濟改革開放過程中﹐也作出重大貢獻。

一九四九年﹐莊世平創辦的香港南洋商業銀行成立並開張﹐在香港掛起了第一面五星紅旗。次年﹐莊世平籌辦的南通銀行在澳門成立並開張。此後﹐他先後擔任中國銀行總管理處香港金融工作團領導成員､總管理處駐港管理處副主任､香港中國航空公司注冊人以及多家中資銀行領導成員､中國銀行常務董事､中國國際金融學會理事等職務。

莊世平在港英時期是香港的中共“地下黨”主要領導。一九四九年中華人民共和國成立之時﹐毛澤東､周恩來親筆委任他接受國民黨在香港的金融產業﹐他接下了現在位于香港中環的舊中國銀行大廈。時任廣東省人民政府主席的葉劍英更曾委托莊世平﹐將廣東收兌的五億港元和一批美元秘密運到香港“生息”﹐為新中國建設發揮了特殊作用。曾經在莊世平身邊工作過的雷平告訴亞洲周刊﹐早年莊世平進北京﹐都是住在周恩來總理的家中﹐他是毛澤東､周恩來這一輩的共產黨員﹐曾為共產黨海外工作作出巨大貢獻。

莊世平是南洋商業銀行創辦人﹐又剛從全國政協常委的高位退下﹐讓人以為他必然腰纏萬貫､生活奢華﹐然而﹐一生與巨賈高官打交道的莊世平﹐沒有產業﹐沒有企業﹐一直到他離世時﹐都還居住于香港中銀提供的宿舍。在香港有一輛車是很平常的事﹐但莊世平沒有自己的車﹐他用車也是中銀派的。莊世平的兒子到退休前也不過是以租車送貨､開巴士維生的普通香港人。

莊世平有四個兒子和兩個女兒﹐直至他臨終﹐沒有一個子女在政界和商界﹐連當一個小老板､做點小生意的都沒有。依莊世平的背景和為國家的付出﹐他要為子女謀一官半職﹐要從自己創辦的銀行劃出一些資金給子女做生意一點都不難﹐他沒有這樣做﹐還把他創辦的幾家銀行的股權都捐給了國家。莊世平沒有講原因﹐外人也不知道他捐出的款項究竟是多少﹐有人說起碼有上百億﹐但直至他離開人世﹐家人和親屬都不知到底價值是多少。在國家和民族事業上﹐莊世平是有崇高境界和理想的﹐但在金錢面前﹐他又是很不屑一顧的。

九十高齡仍給太太喂飯

莊太太晚年得了老年痴呆症﹐只有莊世平喂她飯才吃。那時莊世平已九十多歲﹐但不管有多少應酬﹐他都要趕回家喂太太吃飯。太太沒有醫療保健﹐香港住院費昂貴﹐就送到深圳住院﹐太太最後在深圳過世﹐他從來不吭一聲。富商李嘉誠是莊世平的好朋友﹐他多次對莊世平說﹐有什麼事需要幫忙的就告訴他。但莊世平從來不為自己個人的事去找人幫助。

莊世平關心的是民族大業和國家的興盛。零四年﹐莊世平做心臟搭橋手術﹐昔日部屬雷平去跑馬地養和醫院看望他﹐莊世平看上去精神很好﹐見到雷平揮手說﹕“外面有什麼消息快告訴我﹖”每次雷平從北京､上海回到香港﹐都要第一時間告訴他內地的一些新聞。莊世平還對雷平說﹐中國從以“階級斗爭為綱”到“和諧社會”經過了漫長的路﹐現在終于走出了一條光明之路。

在與雷平多次交談中莊世平誇獎說﹕“我們的胡總書記不錯呀﹐總算遇到這麼一個能干的領導”。莊世平會從有四十多個非洲國家的領導參加的中非會議談起﹐講胡錦濤亞洲四國訪問﹐講東協會議﹐講胡錦濤的對臺關系､中美關系等﹐總會贊不絕口。有一次學舞蹈的雷平對莊世平說﹐胡錦濤走路的樣﹐看上去就很謹慎､很穩重﹐莊世平笑著連說了三個﹕“對﹐對﹐對。”莊世平接著說﹐有些外國記者曾經不解地問他﹐為什麼網上的網民都叫胡錦濤為“胡哥”﹐莊世平回答說﹐中國人稱“哥們”﹐就是指自己人。

莊世平曾表露﹐十六歲追隨共產黨﹐並不為官為利﹐是因為小時候就覺得中國人太受氣﹐洋人看不起中國人﹐“我們的使命就是帶領中國人在國際舞臺上強盛﹐有地位､有尊嚴﹐這個目的達到了﹐我都不舍得死了﹐但是我也死而無憾了”。這就是莊世平跨越兩個世紀的人生目標。在中國現在這個物欲橫流的社會﹐中國官場盛行有權不用､過期作廢﹐不少貪官因此掉入貪瀆泥坑﹐但他卻依然一身正氣﹐正是因為他有生命宗旨的支撐﹐考慮的是國家和民族的利益。

香港中銀改革﹐要合並南洋商業銀行﹐莊世平到北京找朱U基﹐說南洋商業銀行是在香港注冊﹐在國內開分行﹐中國銀行是在內地注冊﹐在香港開分行﹐合到一起﹐“銀行公會我們就少了一票”﹐為什麼要這樣做呢﹖講得很有道理﹐朱U基接納了莊的意見﹐雖然已下了文﹐但還是馬上改正。

十多年前﹐香港金融界知名人士劉夢熊問莊世平﹕“你這輩子有哪件事令你難忘。”莊世平回答說﹕“五十年代初﹐我在銀行做經理時﹐協助國家購回一幅有書聖王羲之十七個真跡的墨寶﹐這件事我感到最開心﹗”劉夢熊對亞洲周刊表示﹕“不管大事小事﹐莊世平來者不拒﹐有求必應﹐他才是香港的‘黃大仙’。”

作家夏萍曾追隨莊世平﹐也深有感觸﹐說莊世平幫人細致入微﹐是想把知道的一切都告訴你。夏萍最初寫《李嘉誠傳》﹐“他從頭到尾一直很關注﹐給出很多意見”。夏萍寫了三年﹐後來生病住院﹐莊還去醫院看她。在莊世平指導下﹐夏萍創辦了《領袖》雜志。莊做過記者﹐很有興趣給予指導﹐他特別強調社會責任﹐給夏萍很多的瑑o。

莊世平也受到業界和社會的尊重。雷平回憶說﹐那一年和莊世平出席國際金融研討會﹐有人介紹﹐今天來的金融大亨中有一位香港老頭﹐他身無分文﹐住的還是宿舍﹐讓國際金融界都曉得這位傳奇人物。會議結束後﹐雷平扶著莊世平走出會場﹐在走道上﹐所有的與會者一字排開﹐讓莊世平先離開﹐表示對他的敬意。

莊世平曾經對雷平講過﹕“資本的力量很強大﹐但如果沒有了國家和民族﹐你再有錢也就是買辦。”■ 莊世平小檔案

廣東潮汕普寧人﹐第二至六屆全國人大代表､第七屆全國政協常委。一九一一年生于普寧縣。一九三四年畢業于北京中國大學經濟系。一九三五年旅居泰國﹐先後任新民學校校長､《中原日報》記者。一九四二年後經商﹐曾任曼谷安達公司經理。一九四七年到香港籌辦南洋商業銀行和澳門南通銀行。一九五零年後任南洋商業銀行董事長､中國銀行總行常務董事､汕頭特區顧問委員會主任､全國僑聯第三､四屆副主席。■


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真•共產黨員呀......

讚~

在投機社會裡有這份清醒的人不多了。

Hm......his death is only a few day headlline.
People will forget him in next month.
The money he donated keep collected by some rubbish government officers........


Even Central.....realize total communist is impossible.......he is really a XXXX......

Do not save money,do not do醫療保健,no support from government,refuse the aid from friends......finally let his wife die in poor medical facility.I think of the God Father joke immediately................... (It may more funny if government aid him as a poor old man.)


I suddenly feel he is more likely a big joke more than racial hero......

讚~

在投機社會裡有這份清醒的人不多了。

Massive water cause poison.....
Too conscious make mental.

He show us the real 共產黨員and prove the共產is stupid thing......

I have no idea what you're talking about. You just jumped to conclusions out of nowhere.

Btw, if you don't want to learn how to type chinese, at least try to improve your english.

本篇文章已被 徐元直 於 Jun 10 2007, 11:56 編輯過

I have no idea what you're talking about. You just jumped to conclusions out of nowhere.

Btw, if you don't want to learn how to type chinese, at least try to improve your english.

Sorry I was a little out of control......
I nearly laugh to die.

I got the news from paper a few days ago.....(In GZ)
The journalist described him a good person,but skip his wife part(I guess the reporter did not get the data in time.)
I appreciate what he do to to country,but he really stupid.

If someone help others during he is preparing things should be submitted very soon,what ur comments?

If a friend of yours tell u he supports the ppl surround in financial but have insufficient fund for his medical fee since he donated all his money. What do u think???

He is responsible for country but not a good father when contry build by families.

For Lee parts.....
If I were Mr Lee....I may help him in indirect way such as social workers/contact someon @China or what to give him a better medical treatment.....
However, noone did the things above, letting his wife dead in a cheap hospital .....report it now after the old man dead and ............ give him positive comment.

This is a honour in appearence.........
However,if someone die in a similar way(A normal person.).......u will get clowns in Golden forum.

資本的力量很強大﹐但如果沒有了國家和民族﹐你再有錢也就是買辦。
All he have is these 2 things....but anyone will remember him???After few days news...he will be forgot by all ppl,someone may deem him as a good guy,someone may just laugh with him.(I tell I am both.)

雖然這位十六歲就追隨共產黨﹐在中國共產黨打天下與治天下時都立下汗馬功勞的共產黨人﹐去世後並沒有被冠以“優秀的中國共產黨員”的帽子﹐也沒有“忠誠的共產主義戰士”的名號﹐但他的一些當年下屬及同志都不會忘記﹐他一生清廉﹐高風亮節﹐曾將上百億計在他名下的由他創辦的銀行股權捐給當局。他走了﹐沒有給家屬留下房子､車子､銀子﹐卻留下了以一生誠實寬容､正直正義鑄就的“鏡子”﹐照亮了一個共產黨員的理想
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莊太太晚年得了老年痴呆症﹐只有莊世平喂她飯才吃。那時莊世平已九十多歲﹐但不管有多少應酬﹐他都要趕回家喂太太吃飯。太太沒有醫療保健﹐香港住院費昂貴﹐就送到深圳住院﹐太太最後在深圳過世﹐他從來不吭一聲。富商李嘉誠是莊世平的好朋友﹐他多次對莊世平說﹐有什麼事需要幫忙的就告訴他。但莊世平從來不為自己個人的事去找人幫助
This is a criticism rather than anything......

Fight his whole life for Chinese....and this is what his receive in belief.
How many years China take serious in"communist"???What it's result???
In 80's,China opened in its market system already.He still live in his dream.

For a son of him work as a driver.....no son/daughter work in business/financial......(What their career actually???)

What being with him is not only"清醒", ultra of 清醒"and make himself away from natural.....
This guy should be honour in parts....but not worth to follow.

本篇文章已被 kyr 於 Jun 10 2007, 13:04 編輯過

Where did you get the fact that his wife died because of insufficient fund and below standard medical treatment? Being treated in the mainland implies that? I don't think so. Did you just "imagined" it? And then you critize and laugh at your own imagination?

Also, do you have any idea about Alzheimer's disease? You think you can just throw money into it and cure it?

A lot of people will remeber him, most probably more than the people that will remember you and me. Do you think you will get reported like this when you die? Do you think you'll receive the same amount of respect? And do you think that being remembered is all your life means?

You think the pure state or final goal of communism is all there is in CCP's ideas and beliefs? Wrong, very wrong. Lots of CCP members lacks belief, true, because being in the CCP is more like a tag nowadays to gain privilege. But it's those who has a belief that move things forward. Like Deng, he knows the ideal communism system doesn't work in the reality he faces, he dropped it, but that doesn't mean he has no belief towards the communism theory or the CCP or this country. Same for Mr Zhuang here, if all he believes is the simplistic "communism---no open market etc" like in your understanding, how did he become what he became? Tell me. If he's still "living in his dream" like you said, it's more like he will curse the current CCP more than anything.

I for one will not donate my everything to the country, but that doesn't give me the right to say "I'm smart and he is a joke".

本篇文章已被 徐元直 於 Jun 10 2007, 14:04 編輯過

By the way, although i would respect 莊世平 , but for the description in the article that he "還把他創辦的幾家銀行的股權都捐給了國家", i would still suspect that the fact may be he is not just so 偉大無私 such that he donate his shares worth billions of HKD to that state, i think the fact may be that 南洋商業銀行 have some problems and so he 順水推舟 donate all his shares to the state. Anyway , this is just my imaginations, there is no proof. But i am just think it is just so difficult to imagine a man would be just so altruistic that he donate everything to the state and left nothing to his sons and daughters.

The billion share thing may not be accurate. However, there are lots of people who can donate their life to the country (not just in CCP), there are lots of people who didn't pass their wealth to their children, how difficult is it to believe that there exist a man with the same level of dedication? How difficult is it to believe that someone serves the country but isn't looking for personal return?

Yes, for some it sure is difficult. People grew up in peacetime can hardly understand this kind of dedication.

一九四九年﹐莊世平創辦的香港南洋商業銀行成立並開張﹐在香港掛起了第一面五星紅旗。次年﹐莊世平籌辦的南通銀行在澳門成立並開張。此後﹐他先後擔任中國銀行總管理處香港金融工作團領導成員､總管理處駐港管理處副主任､香港中國航空公司注冊人以及多家中資銀行領導成員､中國銀行常務董事､中國國際金融學會理事等職務。
The money seems belongs to central.
He took the money to HK and open banks with his own name and donated all share back to central and take no money.

Where did you get the fact that his wife died because of insufficient fund and below standard medical treatment? Being treated in the mainland implies that? I don't think so. Did you just "imagined" it? And then you critize and laugh at your own imagination?

Also, do you have any idea about Alzheimer's disease? You think you can just throw money into it and cure it?

A lot of people will remeber him, most probably more than the people that will remember you and me. Do you think you will get reported like this when you die? Do you think you'll receive the same amount of respect? And do you think that being remembered is all your life means?

You think the pure state or final goal of communism is all there is in CCP's ideas and beliefs? Wrong, very wrong. Lots of CCP members lacks belief, true, because being in the CCP is more like a tag nowadays to gain privilege. But it's those who has a belief that move things forward. Like Deng, he knows the ideal communism system doesn't work in the reality he faces, he dropped it, but that doesn't mean he has no belief towards the communism theory or the CCP or this country. Same for Mr Zhuang here, if all he believes is the simplistic "communism---no open market etc" like in your understanding, how did he become what he became? Tell me. If he's still "living in his dream" like you said, it's more like he will curse the current CCP more than anything.

I for one will not donate my everything to the country, but that doesn't give me the right to say "I'm smart and he is a joke".

Long hour transportation is not good to elder people,specially patient.
Her wife should have better medical care and service if they can afford the medical fee at hospital.
Usually,the government give leaders/merchants worked for China a better medicare care(to the hospital in Beijung or what).
It's too easy to give his wife support by direct /indirect way,but noone did it,that the point.Maybe the Central forbiddened him already.




The article,it said 十六歲追隨共產黨
His sons should be borned around 30's~50's
Under the CCP lead and teach,he lead his son to """red 5"""Do not give them much education,cause them can be only a normal driver or what finally(Or cannot afford.)
He did not send his son to foreign for further education as other Communister does.
Do u think it's right????



The people who remember him is the guys he worked with/his friends.
So what?I would rather a better living quality than ""reputation"".
What he did was only a communist goal......live without own soul is what u perfer?


Of course I know,but the Communist always lead others to it or used it as a blade.
For 莊 case.....he is a one who faked and blindly believe in it.
He fight in a commerical world for money and put into communist........
Communist promote him as good example while others realize more of a real communist in modern world is a lose.
I hope his next generations do not ask for government aid......


I never say I am smart but I feel he is treated and fooled by others, evern the reporter in this article.

I fell sorry for him if I only give him respect.

Ya, its true. Under different circumstances, people's behaviour and thoughts may be really different.

By the way, 莊世平 said that "但如果沒有了國家和民族﹐你再有錢也就是買辦。" . In the begining, i do not understand the meaning of this. But later i think that would it be said in decades ago? while HK is in the age of colonization, all the power is in thet whites' hand, and the chinese merchants/traders although made much money , they still always have to be humble in front of the whites? Actually, i do not know when did 莊世平 say so, guess again....

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You really like making up stories don't you. Wife in Shenzhen equals poor treatment, one son worked as driver means he doesn't want much education....

Hello? Reality check please. At least try to google something, you'll see your imagination is no good at all.

Ok, now you say this man lived without his own soul? No soul because he is living in your imagined "bad quality" life? Then I guess I have no soul too since I'm not living in a big luxury house and served by maids, poor me.

You failed to understand what it's like to be dedicated (or just have faith) to a country, a nation, and the political system behind it. To you, whoever that believes in the CCP government is either fake or blind simply because Mao's way didn't work. Well, that kind of conclusion is blind in itself. It's wishful thinking as well.

Save your feelings if you can't distinguish between fact and imagination.

Not just about colonization, not just about the past. Political status and economy never really seperates. Ever heard of economic warfare? Why is exchange rate such a hot topic?

You really like making up stories don't you. Wife in Shenzhen equals poor treatment, one son worked as driver means he doesn't want much education....

Hello? Reality check please. At least try to google something, you'll see your imagination is no good at all.

Ok, now you say this man lived without his own soul? No soul because he is living in your imagined "bad quality" life? Then I guess I have no soul too since I'm not living in a big luxury house and served by maids, poor me.

You failed to understand what it's like to be dedicated (or just have faith) to a country, a nation, and the political system behind it. To you, whoever that believes in the CCP government is either fake or blind simply because Mao's way didn't work. Well, that kind of conclusion is blind in itself. It's wishful thinking as well.

Save your feelings if you can't distinguish between fact and imagination.

You give everything without thinking?
Anything do not involved in article is image?
Maybe it time for u to kick ur education books if u back to reality.
http://paper.wenweipo.com/2007/06/03/NS0706030003.htm
莊老與夫人生活尚且如此簡樸，七名兒女要靠父蔭同樣是異想天開。莊老把所有兒女送返內地讀書，4個兒子雖都是大學或大專畢業生，但離校後只被派到一般的工作崗位

Do u knw the environment of HK?
Which kind of company employ mainland University students?
Ignore some famous Universities,or those with better language ability.(Japanese,English,Korean..... )
All other ppl can only work in mailnland or Chinese compoany @HK (need some relationship)

The "professional "in China usually do not agree in HK,u have to take an exam in HK.

Mainland Univeristy have big varience in quality.....I hope u know.
Also,for some University in Mainland,they accept students from Taiwan ,HK,Maccau/other foreign country with a lower score.(want more mainland sound in other district in future)


I am saying HK """today""".
I sure the situtation is worse in their age.
The program I am studying will receive a degree from Mainland and Canada side.


Hm, a cheaper medical fee receive a better medical care,I surrender.


CCP crash itself when CCP needs leaders,one day leaders exist,it is not equal for all guy.
CCP a little copy on animals such as ants,but they didnot notice the difference of human and them and blidnly honour their vegenerate and the fearless of death.
Some critical problem can not be solve in their way.I have read it roughly years ago,but i have missed much of it,would u mind telling me it strength?
But it's a good weapon to push stupid framers to ""revolution""
I remember Mao failed in manage China well ,Lau and Den put the economic idea of west in it,and Mao used CCP rule to beat them and took back his rights.
Pure""CCP"" never bring anything good to China.


I am someone dislike China and want it die,ok?

I would also agree that hoping that everyone are so unself and do not care about themselves is impractical and actually do not bring economic growth. According to Adam smith, selfishness of human in fact brings economic growth (under market economy?).

err....

He's 97. How old do you think his children is? And how popular is higher education at the time they were in universities? Yet you think he doesn't want to "give them much education". Where's the justification to this? None. Maybe he just want his children to receive education in the motherland and grow roots there, and he think that is more important than making big money when they graduate? How wrong is that? If you know the history of him and his family well, tell us, otherwise just don't act like you know his thoughts and intentions. There are books and TV programs about him, I have also heard about an exhibition showing his art collections. At least try to read those materials and learn more facts before making all these wild guesses and conclusions would you?

I'm asking for some justification for the above claim other than "not in hk, not expensive enough=poor care lead to death". Oh did I ask too much?

If you don't want to justify it with proper reason, then keep it in your imagination is the better thing to do.

CCP is CCP, it's a political body that rules most part of China. There could be pure Marxist or pure Maoist, but saying "pure CCP" doesn't really say anything definition-wise. CCP could be using a socialistic-capitalistic approach to run the country, that doesn't mean it or its believers/supporters are fake or blind. Deng is for sure a follower of the CCP, so is he fake or blind? Playing with definitions won't win you the argument.

All I ask is that you should make conclusions with good support from the facts, not from your wild guesses. I'm not asking you to hate or not hate anything, why should I care?

That wouldn't be a reasonable thing to expect, and this is why advanced capitalism is a precondition to establishing a communist society (according to Marx).

He's 97. How old do you think his children is? And how popular is higher education at the time they were in universities? Yet you think he doesn't want to "give them much education". Where's the justification to this? None. Maybe he just want his children to receive education in the motherland and grow roots there, and he think that is more important than making big money when they graduate? How wrong is that? If you know the history of him and his family well, tell us, otherwise just don't act like you know his thoughts and intentions. There are books and TV programs about him, I have also heard about an exhibition showing his art collections. At least try to read those materials and learn more facts before making all these wild guesses and conclusions would you?

I'm asking for some justification for the above claim other than "not in hk, not expensive enough=poor care lead to death". Oh did I ask too much?

If you don't want to justify it with proper reason, then keep it in your imagination is the better thing to do.

CCP is CCP, it's a political body that rules most part of China. There could be pure Marxist or pure Maoist, but saying "pure CCP" doesn't really say anything definition-wise. CCP could be using a socialistic-capitalistic approach to run the country, that doesn't mean it or its believers/supporters are fake or blind. Deng is for sure a follower of the CCP, so is he fake or blind? Playing with definitions won't win you the argument.

All I ask is that you should make conclusions with good support from the facts, not from your wild guesses. I'm not asking you to hate or not hate anything, why should I care?

My granfather was borned in that age and joined the war that period.
He can teach in middle school in China but he can only be a security@ HK that time.(dead already,around 9x~1xx if still alive)

I said already,a son of him at leaset 6x




If u want to root in Mainland and take education there...ok,but he should send them foreign after graduated.
The HK that moment bank/government......requires employees with good english ability.

Also.....do you think the HK government allow someone with a dad with that background???Do the government allow those from mainland university???

Mainland school should be easier to get in if he is Communist.....
The school I am studying have a nickn name ""8th squard""(it means someplace training mainland agents),of course it should be better now.

His sons may not gain nothing from him but penalty.

However,he can be named as a good father who 七名兒女要靠父蔭同樣是異想天開。莊老把所有兒女送返內地讀書，4個兒子雖都是大學或大專畢業生，但離校後只被派到一般的工作崗位


Maybe I make mistakes in it,but the picture should be something like that.

Anyone dare to say any bad word in that moment???Wanna die?
Even I was his son,I won't make any complain of him in this moment.



I think Deng just put it in mouth.......

First, wealth =/= quality of life. (How satisfied you are with your way of living)

Secondly, I can almost empathise what his beliefs are. (Read Wild Swans by Jung Chang)

thirdly, he is the 'perfect model' of what we need in governments today. The fact that just because you have powerful parents, you can *almost* get away with anything is just morally wrong. (negation of equality in front of the law)

In addition to that, what is needed in positions of such prestige and influence is the ability to remain clear sighted. i.e. Candidates chosen on merit and ability, instead of relationships. (I admit I'm imagining too far)

All in all he reminds me of Plato's republic. (Assumption on the article to be mostly true.)