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很奇怪,我不知道我的回复中的专业人士哪里有特指是大陆专业人士?

foreign ""professional"的意见当然也是很有力很权威的论据,不过似乎我没看到,难道您或者本文作者是杂技专业的?



QUOTE (路人甲 @ Jul 23 2007, 08:48 PM)
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Will u believe all words from your agents??(investment,insurance,fund....)
Will/Should China listen to the foreign ""professional""???

Profession in China is not Professtional?Only foreigner can make professional judgement? How professional you are can make this professional argument?

It seems u don't understand what I am saying.
Just tell me:
Which country more specialize in market operation?
US/China???

However,US use to to make infulence on foreign market with their ""professional"".
Still remember their trick in 97??The 4 dragons@ Asia??What happened in Japan last century??

If China blindly believe their words and rise the YMB rapaidly.....What will happen in China market?

Even professional judgement do not match the fact all the time,we cannot blindly believe the """professional"""without any thinking.

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QUOTE (willyho @ Jul 24 2007, 03:40 AM)
Yeah... Showing appreciation for an acrobatic performance is immoral, because it is 'dangerous.' You seem to forget that these performers are trained to do their job. I can show you a similar argument and explain how it literally fails.

Soccer is an extremely dangerous sport. There are risks of serious injury. from the brain concussion to later - life back problems, or suffering threatening injuries that make one disabled. Yet you see the Italian President congratulating the players as well as the Italian fans... They are all so inhuman, cruel and immoral. We should ban soccer for good and dismiss all those soccer teams!!

First let me point out some similarities.

Football players have to start training from a young age.

Their playing career rarely goes beyond the age of 35.

The typical career would last maybe 20 years.

They usually don't have any other skill


So next time there's a match, we should remain silent?

Successful sportman gain over millions a year(ignore advertisment,bonus from competition.)
After retire....they may do something like coach,reporteror,action star or what....if they wellknown/good relationship
Soccer,basketball,baseball......are in high risk, high return.


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You just aren't getting it. That argument is a mere demonstration of the failed logic. You seem to forget that those who earn the millions are the fortunate ones. "There are many more whose lives have been ruined. Yet obviously we do not know about it" Looks different but the logic is the same. Over generalization and incorrect assumptions that are not justified.

In any case the football argument is at best a demonstration, at worst a straw man. You fail.
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QUOTE (kyr @ Jul 24 2007, 11:36 AM)
It seems u don't understand what I am saying.
Just tell me:
Which country more specialize in market operation?
US/China???

However,US use to to make infulence on foreign market with their ""professional"".
Still remember their trick in 97??The 4 dragons@ Asia??What happened in Japan last century??

If China blindly believe their words and rise the YMB rapaidly.....What will happen in China market?

Totally irrelevant.

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Successful sportman gain over millions a year(ignore advertisment,bonus from competition.)
After retire....they may do something like coach,reporteror,action star or what....if they wellknown/good relationship
Soccer,basketball,baseball......are in high risk, high return.

Hehe, there are all kinds of gymnastics, how many create millionaires? Even in soccer, what's the chance of becoming a star or at least joining a major league? What is famous is not all there is. That argument really fails.

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Even professional judgement do not  match the fact all the time,we cannot blindly believe the """professional"""without any thinking.

Yet people saying this believes the author, who is not even an amateur, without any sounding evidencing or reasonable argument.

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QUOTE (Ar Mo @ Jul 24 2007, 11:04 PM)
你地up乜-0-?

如果不是提出關於主題的意見, 在人家討論得熱烈時這樣說一句不太好.


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Kyr... You are such a joker... Stop creating useless straw-man arguments. For once read my post carefully. The sportsman argument is merely a demonstration of failed logic
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